Record Store Day’s Co-Founder Says CDs Embarrass Vinyl on the One Test Audiophiles Never Run

He presses $125 records for a living and just called an $11 CD their equal
He presses $125 records for a living and just called an $11 CD their equal

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It’s simple enough to run at home and most premium pressings don’t survive it.

Tom “Grover” Biery has spent the last two decades at the center of vinyl’s commercial resurgence. He grew Warner Bros.’ vinyl revenue from $300,000 to over $5 million in 18 months, co-founded Record Store Day, and today produces one-step audiophile pressings, which a lot of people consider the best of vinyl craftsmanship.

His latest passion, however, points straight to the CD aisle.

“There are CDs that I would consider hi-fi CDs. Like I’m kind of I’m almost obsessed with hi-fi CDs right now because they’re like cheap as hell. It’s the best value in music,” Biery told The Vinyl Guide podcast.

His Red Line Isn’t the Format

Biery has produced one-step pressings, A.K.A. vinyl’s most meticulous format, from digital sources. And he doesn’t hedge about it.

“I’m not a purist. I love my vinyl,” Biery told The Vinyl Guide podcast. “I’ve done one steps from a digital source. No problem.”

That honesty matters because the audiophile vinyl world has spent decades treating analog tape as sacred. They believe that if a recording wasn’t sourced from the original master tape, something essential gets lost in the translation to digital.

While his career sits inside that tradition, he is less interested in the source format than in the choices made after it.

Where he draws the line, though, is compression, not format. Masters where engineers sacrificed dynamic range for volume are off the table, but “if it’s a digital source, fine,” as he put it. A recording tracked in Pro Tools can get the same consideration as one sourced from pristine quarter-inch tape.

On the other hand, a significant share of acclaimed 1990s and 2000s recordings were made in digital workstations, and traditional labels had ignored that catalog because, as Biery put it, “a lot of people are purist about that.”

When Mastering Went to War

Biery’s framework raises an obvious question. If mastering is what matters, why don’t all CDs qualify?

The simple answer is: because many weren’t mastered with care. During the 1990s and 2000s, mastering engineers increasingly compressed dynamic range on CDs to make records sound louder, exploiting a psychological reality where louder music consistently wins side-by-side comparisons. The practice, called the loudness war, created an arms race.

CDs that went through that process lost the quality Biery prizes most. Their dynamic range got flattened, and no amount of premium repressing can restore what the mastering destroyed.

But streaming soon killed the incentive. Services now normalize playback at roughly -14 LUFS, which means over-compressed tracks get turned down automatically while well-mastered recordings keep their full range. The war is over, and CDs that predate it or escaped its worst effects sound exactly like what Biery describes.

Biery illustrated the point with an example that predates the format debate entirely.

“Look, you look at the Robert Johnsons, every Robert Johnson song we have is sourced from a 78 record. So a tape source is an indicator but it doesn’t equal the top quality,” he said explained.

Those recordings, sourced from shellac with far worse specifications than CD or vinyl, remain among the most revered in music history. Biery applies the same logic to his own production decisions.

“If you don’t get a source that you’re comfortable is going to show the value in the end record, we just don’t do it,” he told Tracking Angle.

Ten Times the Price, Same Master

Turntable spinning Dark Side of the Moon (From: Reddit/warpiglets)
Turntable spinning Dark Side of the Moon (From: Reddit/warpiglets)

The price difference between vinyl and CD tells the rest of the story. On current retail prices, that difference is staggering.

A CD of Yes’s Big Generator sells for $11, while the vinyl version of the same album goes for $115, more than ten times the price. Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon pushes the ratio even further, with the CD at $21 and the vinyl at $299.

At that spread, vinyl has to justify more than playback. The premium also buys the object, the scarcity, and the process behind the pressing.

Meanwhile, audiophile vinyl has its justifications. Biery has said one-step records commonly run around $100 for a single LP and $125 for a double, which puts them outside casual-listening territory.

And the process demands it. Each stamper wears out after just 500 to 750 copies, so a pressing like the Beach Boys’ Pet Sounds, limited to 6,000 copies, required cutting nine separate lacquers. That meant the mastering work had to be repeated across multiple lacquers, multiplying one of the most expensive parts of the production.

He doesn’t pretend the economics favor vinyl for every listener, though. The expense is real, and he is the first to acknowledge it. So for many buyers, the question isn’t whether a premium pressing sounds better than a CD but whether it sounds ten times better.

“Do you like the record or not? I mean, I buy dollar records I love and I’ve bought $75 records. I wonder why I bought them?” he said.

His CD enthusiasm sharpens the value test. Vinyl can have meaning, but the extra cost still has to buy enough extra experience to matter.

$25 Million Worth of Proof

Biery’s framework didn’t emerge in a vacuum. The audiophile world had already been forced to confront its format assumptions, and the lesson was expensive.

In July 2022, Mike Esposito of The ‘In’ Groove record store in Phoenix revealed that Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab, one of the most respected names in audiophile vinyl, had been using a digital conversion step in its mastering process while marketing records as all-analog.

The company’s engineers confirmed that DSD, a high-resolution digital format, had been used on all of MoFi’s One-Step records. Then a class action followed, affecting roughly 40,000 customers, with a settlement north of $25 million finalized in October 2023.

This scandal matters here for one reason: listeners had praised those MoFi records for years before knowing a digital step was involved. It does not excuse the lack of transparency, but it does reinforce Biery’s point that execution can matter more to the ear than the analog-versus-digital label.

That’s why Biery doesn’t use MoFi as a gotcha, since his framework predates the controversy by nearly two decades. In fact, his reaction to MoFi itself was notably generous.

“I lost zero respect for MoFi through this process because I know they — to me I still trust them. They’re like a chef, right? And they’re going to bring me a meal. I trust that they’re going to provide a good meal for me,” he said.

If the meal is good, the ingredients list is secondary. It is the same logic that leads him to hi-fi CDs.

Vinyl’s Insider Sends You to the CD Aisle

The architect of vinyl’s commercial revival now sends people to the CD aisle, but he sees no contradiction.

He still produces one-step pressings because the vinyl itself matters to listeners who value the object, the engineering, and the limited-edition craft that goes into each run. He just does not pretend those listeners are paying for superior sound. Instead, the premium buys ritual, craft, and scarcity.

Under his framework, sound quality comes from the master first. Vinyl still adds an experience, but it does not automatically win on fidelity.

That leaves an honest tension at the center of his career. He produces vinyl for people who want the physical artifact and the pressing process behind it, and he champions CDs for people who want the sound without the markup.

But his own quality test is simpler than the format wars allow.

“If it blows your mind sitting on the beach in AirPods, you’ve hit a home run,” he said.

💬 Conversation: 13 comments

  1. Compression wars started with radio when stations wanted to give their broadcasts more ‘punch’. The result, might be OK for car audio systems sounds dreadful on a decent audio system.

    One example of compression ruining music I came across was on “Abbey Road”. Around 2000 I ripped all my vinyl onto CDs, a tedious process and one where I discovered a skip on one track. Being lazy I got a budget reissue of the same album that was available at the time to pull that track (by this time the CDs had been ripped into FLACs) and was amazed at just how bad it sounded compared to the well used vinyl. Up to then I’d thought of all this digital/analog business being hogwash (I’m and engineer — ’nuff said?) but now I got to understand exactly what people were on about. Its not the medium — a CD of a vinyl record will sound exactly the same as the record, including any imperfections. For some listening to an older, much loved record, these imperfections are part of the experience (just as tape bleed through on some high volume masters became part of the performance).

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    1. As your example was Abbey Road there might be a different explanation. If your Abbey Road CD is an early pressing it was mastered with pre-emphasis. Early Cd players had a circuit to correctly decode this. The practice of encoding the Cd with pre-emphasis quickly died out so then players stopped being made with the ability to decode these early CDs correctly. It will sound a little flat and too treblely. On the other if your copy is a 2009 or later CD then yes compression was used and the issue is the one you assumed it was. ..but you say ‘around 2000’ so it can’t be because of compression…? Hope that helps!

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  2. How can air pods compete with highly rated speakers amp and CD, at say £7,000.00, that tells me his not really an audiophile, more a casual listener due to the amount of time he spends in that environment, I have a financially balanced front end of Cd transport, Vinyl record deck and Streamer, all highly rated by all those that have tested them, a highly rated Dac, Amp and speakers. They all sound very close to me but the vinyl has this beautiful sweet flowing sound that is very addictive, I keep my vinyl in mint condition most of it is from the 80 and 90’s, the most money went into the streamer it’s power supply and ethernet cable direct to the router, I don’t use wireless or Bluetooth and yet it’s sound is the flatest, my room is large and has some sound treatment, don’t tell me Apple ear pods sound that good because I have access to some and there’s not even close to my set up especially the Vinyl.

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  3. I would like to see a list of the worst mastered cds from both analog and digital sources!
    Curious if I might have one. I like both vinyl and cd, have large collections of both. When used cd market opened up, I got a lot! Notice the mastering changes(loudness differences at same volume setting} from late 90’s to early 2010’s.

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  4. The loudness thing is true. When I was installing stereos back in the late ’90s in the early 2000 there was a sudden surge in people who just wanted way too much boom at the expense of inequality at all. Even my son, who grew up around my mind frame wanted really crappy quality speakers because they were super loud. I didn’t do it. I should have, it would have cost me a third of what I paid for quality stuff and that’s just the equipment I did the installs. It was really sad. I think desire for quality is now returning, still has to go to get where it was

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  5. I’ve said for years that compression and limiting kills. It was absolutely necessary when we used tape, and for radio transmission. For classical recording we read the score and skilfully rode the master fader pre-empting volume changes to stay clear of the noise floor and to avoid tape compression. (which was great on snare drums but not much else). Nowadays the obsession with permanent maximum volume has all but killed music. Even the classical recording forums are obsessed with “mastering”, a euphemism for fancy compression. (ex BBC sound engineer)

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    1. Now we have to worry about classic recordings being tampered with using pitch correction. The industry just can’t leave well enough alone.

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  6. Can’t believe I read that entire stupid article just to “learn” that bad masters make bad media. Yeah really you think?

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  7. From my ole Record Store Days from 1978-2003, I thought the main reason for cds was all major labels profit increased tremendously. Initially many cds released were in that flat mono. No question the lower cost of cds, especially used CDs pass music along at incredible savings, along with Record stores profits good. Vinyl releases with their packaging, (especially double LPs) are and I believe will historically be #1.
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  8. A digital copy of vinyl does not sound “exactly the same“. Sure it could be measured the same, but any analog element meaning real world fully uncompressed undigitalized sound is that a human can perceive is going to be lost in the transition. If you can’t hear the difference, either your source recording was not analog or your headphones / speaker system are not Wi-Fi enough.

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